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Don Lancaster
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:15 pm
Free download at < http://www.tinaja.com/videos/ps1.mp4 >
Presently needs a three minute download.
We eventually will get it on YouTube as well.
Other classic reprints at < http://www.tinaja.com/glair01.asp#early >
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Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don_at_tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
Herbert Voss
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:32 pm
Am 09.08.2010 16:15, schrieb Don Lancaster:
Quote:
Should be
http://www.tinaja.com/video/ps1.mp4
video and not videos
Herbert
Quote:
Presently needs a three minute download.
We eventually will get it on YouTube as well.
Other classic reprints at < http://www.tinaja.com/glair01.asp#early
Don Lancaster
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:40 pm
On 8/9/2010 7:32 AM, Herbert Voss wrote:
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Am 09.08.2010 16:15, schrieb Don Lancaster:
Free download at< http://www.tinaja.com/videos/ps1.mp4
Should be
http://www.tinaja.com/video/ps1.mp4
video and not videos
Herbert
Presently needs a three minute download.
We eventually will get it on YouTube as well.
Other classic reprints at< http://www.tinaja.com/glair01.asp#early
Free download at< http://www.tinaja.com/videos/ps1.mp4
Should be
http://www.tinaja.com/video/ps1.mp4
video and not videos
Herbert
Presently needs a three minute download.
We eventually will get it on YouTube as well.
Other classic reprints at< http://www.tinaja.com/glair01.asp#early
Correct and thank you.
Directory should be "video" not "videos"
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Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don_at_tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
Tim Williams
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:43 pm
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
Tim
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"Don Lancaster" <don_at_tinaja.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Free download at < http://www.tinaja.com/videos/ps1.mp4
Presently needs a three minute download.
We eventually will get it on YouTube as well.
Other classic reprints at < http://www.tinaja.com/glair01.asp#early
--
Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don_at_tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
Don Lancaster
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:07 pm
On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
Quote:
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
Tim
Tim
No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.
And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
--
Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don_at_tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
Tim Williams
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:26 pm
"Don Lancaster" <don_at_tinaja.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.
And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.
And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
I mean, I would be more impressed if the video itself were PS. You can do
3D drawings, so what about the 4th dimension--time? You should be able to
write that whole thing in about 22kB of PS. ;^)
Speaking of MP4, it's ironic that such small PS files are rasterized, then
JPEG compressed. They look truely terrible. It would be neat if you
could encapsulate PS inside an MP4 stream. MP4 is a stream container, but
it's not specified for PS content, is it?
There are standards for variable quality, scalable, streamable images,
like JPEG2000, which perhaps could be integrated with vector media like PS
and SVG. I suppose it'll be several decades before we get a video format,
and the computational power to encode and decode it, which can do all
these things, in four dimensions. 3D vector animations with "unlimited"
resolution will be pretty fuckin sweet when it gets here, though...
On a tangentially related subject, Don, I don't suppose you know of
programs (or scripts) good for converting vector graphics formats, like
for instance Paint Shop files? All the ones I've seen create a raster
image. Eugh.
Tim
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Spehro Pefhany
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Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:56 pm
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 17:26:03 -0500, the renowned "Tim Williams"
<tmoranwms_at_charter.net> wrote:
Quote:
"Don Lancaster" <don_at_tinaja.com> wrote in message
news:8cb900F2qhU1_at_mid.individual.net...
On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.
And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
I mean, I would be more impressed if the video itself were PS. You can do
3D drawings, so what about the 4th dimension--time? You should be able to
write that whole thing in about 22kB of PS. ;^)
news:8cb900F2qhU1_at_mid.individual.net...
On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.
And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
I mean, I would be more impressed if the video itself were PS. You can do
3D drawings, so what about the 4th dimension--time? You should be able to
write that whole thing in about 22kB of PS. ;^)
Hammond seems to be able to get animations in their PS files.
http://www.hammondmfg.com/pdf/1590B.pdf
Quote:
Speaking of MP4, it's ironic that such small PS files are rasterized, then
JPEG compressed. They look truely terrible. It would be neat if you
could encapsulate PS inside an MP4 stream. MP4 is a stream container, but
it's not specified for PS content, is it?
There are standards for variable quality, scalable, streamable images,
like JPEG2000, which perhaps could be integrated with vector media like PS
and SVG. I suppose it'll be several decades before we get a video format,
and the computational power to encode and decode it, which can do all
these things, in four dimensions. 3D vector animations with "unlimited"
resolution will be pretty fuckin sweet when it gets here, though...
On a tangentially related subject, Don, I don't suppose you know of
programs (or scripts) good for converting vector graphics formats, like
for instance Paint Shop files? All the ones I've seen create a raster
image. Eugh.
Tim
JPEG compressed. They look truely terrible. It would be neat if you
could encapsulate PS inside an MP4 stream. MP4 is a stream container, but
it's not specified for PS content, is it?
There are standards for variable quality, scalable, streamable images,
like JPEG2000, which perhaps could be integrated with vector media like PS
and SVG. I suppose it'll be several decades before we get a video format,
and the computational power to encode and decode it, which can do all
these things, in four dimensions. 3D vector animations with "unlimited"
resolution will be pretty fuckin sweet when it gets here, though...
On a tangentially related subject, Don, I don't suppose you know of
programs (or scripts) good for converting vector graphics formats, like
for instance Paint Shop files? All the ones I've seen create a raster
image. Eugh.
Tim
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Chris S.
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:28 am
"Don Lancaster" <don_at_tinaja.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
Tim
No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.
And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
--
Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don_at_tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
Tim
No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.
And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
--
Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don_at_tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
Well Don,
It was good to see you "In person"
Good presentation. No way in hell you would remember it, but
we chatted on the phone several times back when I was an engineer
at the old National Bureau of Standards. I picked your brain and
actually built your "TV Typewriter" It became my keyboard on my "Micro 8"
8008 machine.
And to the rest of you, forgive me my Techie Transgressions.
Chris
Tim Williams
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:30 am
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP_at_interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hammond seems to be able to get animations in their PS files.
http://www.hammondmfg.com/pdf/1590B.pdf
http://www.hammondmfg.com/pdf/1590B.pdf
Hmm, doesn't work in Foxit Reader. Assuming it was supposed to do
something...
I've seen some, I assume, really dreadfully written PDFs before. CPU sits
at 100% for minutes on end, nothing seems to be happening. Zoom in and
it's painstakingly reproducing every pixel of every dot of a high
resolution halftone pattern in some image.
Tim
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Don Lancaster
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:26 am
On 8/9/2010 3:26 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
Quote:
I mean, I would be more impressed if the video itself were PS. You can do
3D drawings, so what about the 4th dimension--time? You should be able to
write that whole thing in about 22kB of PS. ;^)
We do have some rather stunning full resolution PostScript animation at
< http://www.tinaja.com/glib/pdfanim.pdf >
Quote:
Speaking of MP4, it's ironic that such small PS files are rasterized, then
JPEG compressed. They look truely terrible. It would be neat if you
could encapsulate PS inside an MP4 stream. MP4 is a stream container, but
it's not specified for PS content, is it?
Our primary goal here was to make a classic video newly available to the
widest possible audience as a historical record.
Yes, MP4 resolution totally sucks. And it was quite a challenge to get
the images even as good as they are. Some of the details appear in
< http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu10.asp >
Part of the problem was that the original master was lost by the video
company and we had to work from an extended play VHS copy.
Possibly we should not have originally used an off-season video house
that specialized in movies of people falling off horses. But at the
time, anything else was outrageously expensive.
Quote:
On a tangentially related subject, Don, I don't suppose you know of
programs (or scripts) good for converting vector graphics formats, like
for instance Paint Shop files? All the ones I've seen create a raster
image. Eugh.
Tim
programs (or scripts) good for converting vector graphics formats, like
for instance Paint Shop files? All the ones I've seen create a raster
image. Eugh.
Tim
Acrobat 9 can do much of this at amazingly high quality.
If you need to, you can print to disk to get back to PostScript.
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Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don_at_tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
tlvp
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:54 am
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:15:54 -0400, Don Lancaster <don_at_tinaja.com> wrote:
Quote:
Free download at < http://www.tinaja.com/videos/ps1.mp4
Presently needs a three minute download.
We eventually will get it on YouTube as well.
Heh ... here in coastal Connecticut, where the information superhighway
becomes a rutted, muddy, gravel driveway, *thirty*three minutes is rather
more like the download time -- longer even than the 27-minute playing time!
But thanks all the same
.
And thanks as well for your much earlier TTL Cook Book, etc.
Served me well in my youth.
Quote:
Other classic reprints at < http://www.tinaja.com/glair01.asp#early
Cheers, -- tlvp
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Don Lancaster
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:21 am
On 8/9/2010 8:54 PM, tlvp wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:15:54 -0400, Don Lancaster <don_at_tinaja.com> wrote:
Free download at < http://www.tinaja.com/videos/ps1.mp4
Presently needs a three minute download.
We eventually will get it on YouTube as well.
Heh ... here in coastal Connecticut, where the information superhighway
becomes a rutted, muddy, gravel driveway, *thirty*three minutes is rather
more like the download time -- longer even than the 27-minute playing time!
But thanks all the same .
And thanks as well for your much earlier TTL Cook Book, etc.
Served me well in my youth.
Other classic reprints at < http://www.tinaja.com/glair01.asp#early
Cheers, -- tlvp
Free download at < http://www.tinaja.com/videos/ps1.mp4
Presently needs a three minute download.
We eventually will get it on YouTube as well.
Heh ... here in coastal Connecticut, where the information superhighway
becomes a rutted, muddy, gravel driveway, *thirty*three minutes is rather
more like the download time -- longer even than the 27-minute playing time!
But thanks all the same
.
And thanks as well for your much earlier TTL Cook Book, etc.
Served me well in my youth.
Other classic reprints at < http://www.tinaja.com/glair01.asp#early
Cheers, -- tlvp
You Tube wants us to split it in half. First upload try failed.
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Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don_at_tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
Nobody
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:27 am
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:26:03 -0500, Tim Williams wrote:
Quote:
There are standards for variable quality, scalable, streamable images,
like JPEG2000, which perhaps could be integrated with vector media like PS
and SVG. I suppose it'll be several decades before we get a video format,
and the computational power to encode and decode it, which can do all
these things, in four dimensions. 3D vector animations with "unlimited"
resolution will be pretty fuckin sweet when it gets here, though...
like JPEG2000, which perhaps could be integrated with vector media like PS
and SVG. I suppose it'll be several decades before we get a video format,
and the computational power to encode and decode it, which can do all
these things, in four dimensions. 3D vector animations with "unlimited"
resolution will be pretty fuckin sweet when it gets here, though...
For 2D, SVG can be animated with embedded JavaScript (works in current
Firefox; I haven't tried anything else).
For 3D, there's WebGL, but that's currently rather bleeding-edge (i.e. you
need a "snapshot" build of Firefox, Chrome or Safari, and some features
will be missing or broken).
Quote:
On a tangentially related subject, Don, I don't suppose you know of
programs (or scripts) good for converting vector graphics formats, like
for instance Paint Shop files? All the ones I've seen create a raster
image. Eugh.
programs (or scripts) good for converting vector graphics formats, like
for instance Paint Shop files? All the ones I've seen create a raster
image. Eugh.
Unless I already know of a better way, my default approach is to "print"
to a PostScript printer using "Print to File", then (unless I want
PostScript) use Ghostscript to convert to PDF, SVG or CGM. The main
downside is that it tends to lose structure (in the worst case, text
may end up with each letter as a distinct object).
Robert Baer
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:09 am
Tim Williams wrote:
Quote:
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
Tim
Maybe you can read, but...comprehend? NO.
Tim
Maybe you can read, but...comprehend? NO.
Robert Baer
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Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:10 am
Don Lancaster wrote:
Quote:
On 8/9/2010 1:43 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
Tim
No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.
And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
Thank you for making my point concerning comprehension..
That's not PS, that's MP4...........
Tim
No, our regular web host does not have enough bandwidth or the correct
software to real time serve multiple video watchers. They are working on
alternatives.
And, of course, all of the stills were done with PostScript.
Thank you for making my point concerning comprehension..
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