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Pete
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:13 am
Does anyone know where I can get about 20-30 metres of aerial CAT5 or
CAT6 cable in Melbourne? I need to connect a cable through the air
between two structures on the same property.
Thanks, Peter
atec77
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:32 am
On 12/10/2011 2:13 PM, Pete wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone know where I can get about 20-30 metres of aerial CAT5 or
CAT6 cable in Melbourne? I need to connect a cable through the air
between two structures on the same property.
Thanks, Peter
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv and
many have shorter lengths , however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end of the
link , You will certainly have differing earth potential with Cat6
across the buildings which is very undesirable and can result in injury
as a result of the potential . I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as described.
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Pete
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:54 am
atec77 wrote:
Quote:
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv and
many have shorter lengths ,
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable needs to
be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be finding cable with
an inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better term. I can find no end
of outdoor cable, but invariably when the distributors say outdoor, they
don't mean that it can be strung between structures without a separate
hanger wire.
I tried Middy's and a couple of other similar places, but nothing is
available off the shelf. Have you actually seen aerial cat5/6 cable at
any electrical supply house? Which/where?
These places say that they can "probably" get some in for me, but it'd
be a whole 1000ft roll, and I only need 20-30 metres for this one
application.
Quote:
however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end of the
link , You will certainly have differing earth potential with Cat6
across the buildings which is very undesirable and can result in injury
as a result of the potential
This application requires a metallic connection. Differing earth
potential is not an issue.
Quote:
I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as described.
This application does not connect to the telecommunications network in
any way.
Peter
Pete
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:54 am
atec77 wrote:
Quote:
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv and
many have shorter lengths ,
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable needs to
be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be finding cable with
an inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better term. I can find no end
of outdoor cable, but invariably when the distributors say outdoor, they
don't mean that it can be strung between structures without a separate
hanger wire.
I tried Middy's and a couple of other similar places, but nothing is
available off the shelf. Have you actually seen aerial cat5/6 cable at
any electrical supply house? Which/where?
These places say that they can "probably" get some in for me, but it'd
be a whole 1000ft roll, and I only need 20-30 metres for this one
application.
Quote:
however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end of the
link , You will certainly have differing earth potential with Cat6
across the buildings which is very undesirable and can result in injury
as a result of the potential
This application requires a metallic connection. Differing earth
potential is not an issue.
Quote:
I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as described.
This application does not connect to the telecommunications network in
any way.
Peter
Phil Allison
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:02 am
"Pete"
Quote:
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable needs to
be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be finding cable with an
inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better term. I can find no end of
outdoor cable, but invariably when the distributors say outdoor, they
don't mean that it can be strung between structures without a separate
hanger wire.
** Make your own - why not?
SS cable is not hard to find.
.... Phil
atec77
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:04 am
On 12/10/2011 2:54 PM, Pete wrote:
Quote:
atec77 wrote:
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv and
many have shorter lengths ,
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable needs to
be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be finding cable with
an inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better term. I can find no end
of outdoor cable, but invariably when the distributors say outdoor, they
don't mean that it can be strung between structures without a separate
hanger wire.
I tried Middy's and a couple of other similar places, but nothing is
available off the shelf. Have you actually seen aerial cat5/6 cable at
any electrical supply house? Which/where?
These places say that they can "probably" get some in for me, but it'd
be a whole 1000ft roll, and I only need 20-30 metres for this one
application.
however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end of the
link , You will certainly have differing earth potential with Cat6
across the buildings which is very undesirable and can result in injury
as a result of the potential
This application requires a metallic connection. Differing earth
potential is not an issue.
I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as
described.
This application does not connect to the telecommunications network in
any way.
Peter
The point being you string the cantenary and then add the cable using
clips or zips , inbuilt hanging wire is 2 times the price and comes
ONLY in 300 metre rolls that I have seen.
If there is the potential to connect to the network OR it's fixed
then you need a cabler
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Dennis
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:47 am
"atec77" <atec77_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j73hm1$558$1_at_dont-email.me...
Quote:
On 12/10/2011 2:54 PM, Pete wrote:
atec77 wrote:
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv and
many have shorter lengths ,
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable needs to
be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be finding cable with
an inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better term. I can find no end
of outdoor cable, but invariably when the distributors say outdoor, they
don't mean that it can be strung between structures without a separate
hanger wire.
I tried Middy's and a couple of other similar places, but nothing is
available off the shelf. Have you actually seen aerial cat5/6 cable at
any electrical supply house? Which/where?
These places say that they can "probably" get some in for me, but it'd
be a whole 1000ft roll, and I only need 20-30 metres for this one
application.
however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end of the
link , You will certainly have differing earth potential with Cat6
across the buildings which is very undesirable and can result in injury
as a result of the potential
This application requires a metallic connection. Differing earth
potential is not an issue.
I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as
described.
This application does not connect to the telecommunications network in
any way.
Peter
The point being you string the cantenary and then add the cable using
clips or zips , inbuilt hanging wire is 2 times the price and comes ONLY
in 300 metre rolls that I have seen.
If there is the potential to connect to the network OR it's fixed then
you need a cabler
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So in theory any fixed ethernet wiring these days needs to be installed by
an Austel licenced person?
Rod Speed
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:13 am
Dennis wrote:
Quote:
"atec77" <atec77_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j73hm1$558$1_at_dont-email.me...
On 12/10/2011 2:54 PM, Pete wrote:
atec77 wrote:
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv
and many have shorter lengths ,
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable
needs to be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be
finding cable with an inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better
term. I can find no end of outdoor cable, but invariably when the
distributors say outdoor, they don't mean that it can be strung
between structures without a separate hanger wire.
I tried Middy's and a couple of other similar places, but nothing is
available off the shelf. Have you actually seen aerial cat5/6 cable
at any electrical supply house? Which/where?
These places say that they can "probably" get some in for me, but
it'd be a whole 1000ft roll, and I only need 20-30 metres for this
one application.
however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end
of the link , You will certainly have differing earth potential
with Cat6 across the buildings which is very undesirable and can
result in injury as a result of the potential
This application requires a metallic connection. Differing earth
potential is not an issue.
I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as
described.
This application does not connect to the telecommunications network
in any way.
Peter
The point being you string the cantenary and then add the cable using
clips or zips , inbuilt hanging wire is 2 times the price and comes
ONLY in 300 metre rolls that I have seen.
If there is the potential to connect to the network OR it's fixed
then you need a cabler
So in theory any fixed ethernet wiring these days needs to be
installed by an Austel licenced person?
Nope.
Sylvia Else
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:13 am
On 12/10/2011 7:04 PM, atec77 wrote:
Quote:
On 12/10/2011 2:54 PM, Pete wrote:
atec77 wrote:
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv and
many have shorter lengths ,
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable needs to
be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be finding cable with
an inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better term. I can find no end
of outdoor cable, but invariably when the distributors say outdoor, they
don't mean that it can be strung between structures without a separate
hanger wire.
I tried Middy's and a couple of other similar places, but nothing is
available off the shelf. Have you actually seen aerial cat5/6 cable at
any electrical supply house? Which/where?
These places say that they can "probably" get some in for me, but it'd
be a whole 1000ft roll, and I only need 20-30 metres for this one
application.
however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end of the
link , You will certainly have differing earth potential with Cat6
across the buildings which is very undesirable and can result in injury
as a result of the potential
This application requires a metallic connection. Differing earth
potential is not an issue.
I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as
described.
This application does not connect to the telecommunications network in
any way.
Peter
The point being you string the cantenary and then add the cable using
clips or zips , inbuilt hanging wire is 2 times the price and comes ONLY
in 300 metre rolls that I have seen.
If there is the potential to connect to the network OR it's fixed then
you need a cabler
Care to cite the legislation that mandates a cabler's licence to install
fixed Cat 5 cabling that isn't connected to the telecommunications network?
Sylvia
atec77
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:21 am
On 12/10/2011 6:47 PM, Dennis wrote:
Quote:
"atec77"<atec77_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j73hm1$558$1_at_dont-email.me...
On 12/10/2011 2:54 PM, Pete wrote:
atec77 wrote:
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv and
many have shorter lengths ,
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable needs to
be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be finding cable with
an inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better term. I can find no end
of outdoor cable, but invariably when the distributors say outdoor, they
don't mean that it can be strung between structures without a separate
hanger wire.
I tried Middy's and a couple of other similar places, but nothing is
available off the shelf. Have you actually seen aerial cat5/6 cable at
any electrical supply house? Which/where?
These places say that they can "probably" get some in for me, but it'd
be a whole 1000ft roll, and I only need 20-30 metres for this one
application.
however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end of the
link , You will certainly have differing earth potential with Cat6
across the buildings which is very undesirable and can result in injury
as a result of the potential
This application requires a metallic connection. Differing earth
potential is not an issue.
I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as
described.
This application does not connect to the telecommunications network in
any way.
Peter
The point being you string the cantenary and then add the cable using
clips or zips , inbuilt hanging wire is 2 times the price and comes ONLY
in 300 metre rolls that I have seen.
If there is the potential to connect to the network OR it's fixed then
you need a cabler
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So in theory any fixed ethernet wiring these days needs to be installed by
an Austel licenced person?
structured cable requires a cabler with suitable permits yes
and no every sparky can do the work
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atec77
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:21 am
On 12/10/2011 7:13 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Quote:
Dennis wrote:
"atec77"<atec77_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j73hm1$558$1_at_dont-email.me...
On 12/10/2011 2:54 PM, Pete wrote:
atec77 wrote:
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv
and many have shorter lengths ,
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable
needs to be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be
finding cable with an inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better
term. I can find no end of outdoor cable, but invariably when the
distributors say outdoor, they don't mean that it can be strung
between structures without a separate hanger wire.
I tried Middy's and a couple of other similar places, but nothing is
available off the shelf. Have you actually seen aerial cat5/6 cable
at any electrical supply house? Which/where?
These places say that they can "probably" get some in for me, but
it'd be a whole 1000ft roll, and I only need 20-30 metres for this
one application.
however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end
of the link , You will certainly have differing earth potential
with Cat6 across the buildings which is very undesirable and can
result in injury as a result of the potential
This application requires a metallic connection. Differing earth
potential is not an issue.
I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as
described.
This application does not connect to the telecommunications network
in any way.
Peter
The point being you string the cantenary and then add the cable using
clips or zips , inbuilt hanging wire is 2 times the price and comes
ONLY in 300 metre rolls that I have seen.
If there is the potential to connect to the network OR it's fixed
then you need a cabler
So in theory any fixed ethernet wiring these days needs to be
installed by an Austel licenced person?
Nope.
wrong as always
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Dennis
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:47 am
"atec77" <atec77_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j73m6b$tv4$1_at_dont-email.me...
Quote:
On 12/10/2011 6:47 PM, Dennis wrote:
"atec77"<atec77_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j73hm1$558$1_at_dont-email.me...
On 12/10/2011 2:54 PM, Pete wrote:
atec77 wrote:
Any electrical supply house should be able to supply some Cat6uv and
many have shorter lengths ,
UV resistant cable jacketing isn't the problem - yes, the cable needs
to
be outdoor rated, but the sticking point seems to be finding cable with
an inbuilt "hanger wire", for want of a better term. I can find no end
of outdoor cable, but invariably when the distributors say outdoor,
they
don't mean that it can be strung between structures without a separate
hanger wire.
I tried Middy's and a couple of other similar places, but nothing is
available off the shelf. Have you actually seen aerial cat5/6 cable at
any electrical supply house? Which/where?
These places say that they can "probably" get some in for me, but it'd
be a whole 1000ft roll, and I only need 20-30 metres for this one
application.
however it would much better to have your
cabler supply pre-terminated fibre with an interface at each end of
the
link , You will certainly have differing earth potential with Cat6
across the buildings which is very undesirable and can result in
injury
as a result of the potential
This application requires a metallic connection. Differing earth
potential is not an issue.
I assume you realise unless you have a
cablers ticket you risk a heavy fine for doing commercial work as
described.
This application does not connect to the telecommunications network in
any way.
Peter
The point being you string the cantenary and then add the cable using
clips or zips , inbuilt hanging wire is 2 times the price and comes
ONLY
in 300 metre rolls that I have seen.
If there is the potential to connect to the network OR it's fixed
then
you need a cabler
--
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\
So in theory any fixed ethernet wiring these days needs to be installed
by
an Austel licenced person?
structured cable requires a cabler with suitable permits yes
and no every sparky can do the work
Union driven legislation perhaps?
Given the workmanship standards of the sparkies (who according to the
signage on their vans were Austel licenced as well) that have done work for
me I'm glad I did my own network wiring!
Jasen Betts
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:50 am
On 2011-10-12, Pete <pjetson_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone know where I can get about 20-30 metres of aerial CAT5 or
CAT6 cable in Melbourne? I need to connect a cable through the air
between two structures on the same property.
Thanks, Peter
for a short run like that just use outdoor wire and tie it to a galv,
catenary using a lacing wire or cable ties etc.
you could use stainless but unless you're right on the coast galv will
probably last 20 years, probably longer than the useful life of the
cat6 form-factor
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Phil Allison
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Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:20 pm
"Jasen Betts" <jasen_at_xnet.co.nz>
** He's from NZ - baaaahhhhhhhhh
Quote:
for a short run like that just use outdoor wire and tie it to a galv,
catenary using a lacing wire or cable ties etc.
** Plastic zip ties will never last long - only a fool would suggest
them.
And look what sheep shagging fuckwit troll just did.
The fucking obvious answer involves not ties at all.
.... Phil
atec77
Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:34 pm
On 12/10/2011 9:47 PM, Dennis wrote:
Quote:
"atec77"<atec77_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
Quote:
So in theory any fixed ethernet wiring these days needs to be installed
by
an Austel licenced person?
structured cable requires a cabler with suitable permits yes
and no every sparky can do the work
Union driven legislation perhaps?
It came into law about 189 or so , specifically staiting if it become
intergrall with the building it's considered structured and requires a
permit
Quote:
Given the workmanship standards of the sparkies (who according to the
signage on their vans were Austel licenced as well) that have done work for
me I'm glad I did my own network wiring!
You realise most sparkys get confused after three colours ?
of course not all cablers have a clue but in your case the use of the
right metal cable and uv ties will last a decade or more , don't use
ordinary zips as they only last about 4 or 5 years
Quote:
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