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Bret Cahill
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:37 am   



Quote:
A study on intellectual property was published a couple years ago.
You'll find similar results in other western countries.

The top 4 cities are in the 3 bluest of the blue states.  No need to
even mention names because everyone on the planet knows the 4 cities.

Even Austin is by far the most liberal place in Texas.

At one time rightards may have had some value to the economy but they
are as worthless as Al Gore in a dust devil in the info age.

That's why they are all acting bat crap crazy and dog poop stoopid.

Bret Cahill

Let's try this experiment: the urban engineers and scientists and
journalists and lawyers go on strike, and the rural farmers and truck
drivers and refinery operators and utility people go on strike. See
who surrenders first.

See the Allen movie _Midsummer_.

There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.

Farmers will try anything.


Bret Cahill

Jasen Betts
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:12 am   



On 2010-02-07, Bret Cahill <BretCahill_at_peoplepc.com> wrote:

Quote:
There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.

Monotony I expect.




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Phil Hobbs
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:09 pm   



On 2/7/2010 1:12 AM, Jasen Betts wrote:
Quote:
On 2010-02-07, Bret Cahill<BretCahill_at_peoplepc.com> wrote:

There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.

Monotony I expect.




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Nah, mostly poverty and isolation. You have to get the job done, or the
crops fail and you lose your farm. Puts a premium on being able to keep
things working and to improvise.

A recent issue of IEEE Spectrum had an article about the power plant
engineers in Gaza restarting their plant by collecting almost 200 car
batteries. Same deal, different situation.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

jmfbahciv
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:04 pm   



John Larkin wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:26:55 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"
Jon_Slaughter_at_Hotmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:35:37 -0800 (PST), Marshall
marshall.spight_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 6, 12:07 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:29:07 -0800 (PST), Marshall
marshall.spi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 6, 10:55 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Let's try this experiment: the urban engineers and scientists and
journalists and lawyers go on strike, and the rural farmers and
truck drivers and refinery operators and utility people go on
strike. See who surrenders first.
How about instead we quit all the partisan bickering, STFU and
GBTW.
Design any interesting electronics lately?
I'm all about the software. How about you?


Marshall
I'm an EE, and I mostly like to design electronics. But I spent a
bunch of last week working on the firmware of this:

http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/T564DS.html

which uses an MC68332 programmed in assembly, just under 7000 lines of
code so far. I added the "frame looping" feature for a customer. That
allows them to load a list of delay/width settings that are loaded
into the gadget after every trigger, and loop N times through the
list. This should have been done in hardware, in the FPGA, but we did
a software implementation for now, and I'm grubbing around for every
microsecond in the ISR that reloads the hardware after each shot. It
runs in about 35 microseconds, not bad for three pages of code on an
ancient 20 MHz CPU.

I can design hardware forever, but I get depressed after about 2 weeks
of programming, for some reason.

What are you working on?

Aren't you a genius!! You seem to think that because you post some stupid
project on the net that it somehow makes you intelligent and that you'll
somehow get obama butt-buddy points(TM) for doing so?

Of course maybe you really are just interested in hearing what others have
done and want to share such things? If so ignore the first part.... If not,
then you might want to realize that there are millions of people out there
doing much more complicated electronics projects and not just for a
paycheck. You only look like someone trying to prove that they are
intelligent and doing a poor job of it.


What a weird person you are.

Yep. I don't think he read your specs.


/BAH

jmfbahciv
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:05 pm   



Jasen Betts wrote:
Quote:
On 2010-02-07, Bret Cahill <BretCahill_at_peoplepc.com> wrote:

There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.

Monotony I expect.

Nope. Necessity.


/BAH

jmfbahciv
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:06 pm   



Bret Cahill wrote:
Quote:
A study on intellectual property was published a couple years ago.
You'll find similar results in other western countries.

The top 4 cities are in the 3 bluest of the blue states. No need to
even mention names because everyone on the planet knows the 4 cities.

Even Austin is by far the most liberal place in Texas.

At one time rightards may have had some value to the economy but they
are as worthless as Al Gore in a dust devil in the info age.

That's why they are all acting bat crap crazy and dog poop stoopid.


How was "intellectual property" defined? How did they measure it?


/BAH

John Fields
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:21 pm   



On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:25:45 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:52:52 -0600, John Fields
jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:17:52 +0530, "spamrebuff"
spamrebuff_at_mydomain.invalid> wrote:

Bret Cahill wrote:
A study on intellectual property was published a couple years
ago.
You'll find similar results in other western countries.

The top 4 cities are in the 3 bluest of the blue states. No
need to
even mention names because everyone on the planet knows the 4
cities.


American arrogance at its finest - or worst. I'm a non-American,
fairly knowledgeable about the world outside my own country. I
could hazard a guess as to which 4 US cities you mean, but I sure
as hell don't _know_.

rest of drivel snipped

---
Don't take offense, that's just Bret Cahill; a patently offensive loon
who happens to live in the US and is despised here as well as, it seems,
everywhere he manages to send his shit.

JF

I think he's a lawyer, which would make him despised most everywhere.


Except for hell. They run the place.

---
So God finds out that this engineer got sent to Hell by mistake and
tells Satan to send him back.

Satan says: "Not a chance; I've got him down here working on the A/C."

"Send him back or I'll sue." replies God.

"Where you gonna find a lawyer?" retorts Satan...


JF

John Fields
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:29 pm   



On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:09:22 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:52:52 -0600, John Fields
jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:17:52 +0530, "spamrebuff"
spamrebuff_at_mydomain.invalid> wrote:

Bret Cahill wrote:
A study on intellectual property was published a couple years
ago.
You'll find similar results in other western countries.

The top 4 cities are in the 3 bluest of the blue states. No
need to
even mention names because everyone on the planet knows the 4
cities.


American arrogance at its finest - or worst. I'm a non-American,
fairly knowledgeable about the world outside my own country. I
could hazard a guess as to which 4 US cities you mean, but I sure
as hell don't _know_.

rest of drivel snipped

---
Don't take offense, that's just Bret Cahill; a patently offensive loon
who happens to live in the US and is despised here as well as, it seems,
everywhere he manages to send his shit.

JF

I think he's a lawyer, which would make him despised most everywhere.

---
ISTR from an earlier thread that he alluded to being a court clerk or a
court reporter or something like that, so he hasn't sunk to the bottom
yet. ;)

JF

Frnak McKenney
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:12 pm   



On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:55:45 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin_at_highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 08:19:50 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
Bret_E_Cahill_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
At one time rightards may have had some value to the economy but they
are as worthless as Al Gore in a dust devil in the info age.

That's why they are all acting bat crap crazy and dog poop stoopid.

Bret Cahill

Let's try this experiment: the urban engineers and scientists and
journalists and lawyers go on strike, and the rural farmers and truck
drivers and refinery operators and utility people go on strike. See
who surrenders first.

John,

Beware the consequences of the Law of Unintended Consequences:

http://www.medical-jokes.com/?s=body+boss



Frank McKenney
--
Taxation with representation isn't so hot, either!
--
Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
Munged E-mail: frank uscore mckenney ayut mined spring dawt cahm (y'all)

Androcles
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:16 pm   



"Frnak McKenney" <frnak_at_far.from.the.madding.crowd.com> wrote in message
news:2ZudnRrPNKv_RfPWnZ2dnUVZ_hZi4p2d_at_earthlink.com...
<snip>

Beware anyone that can't spell their own name...

Michael A. Terrell
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:32 pm   



John Fields wrote:
Quote:

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:25:45 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell_at_earthlink.net> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:52:52 -0600, John Fields
jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:17:52 +0530, "spamrebuff"
spamrebuff_at_mydomain.invalid> wrote:

Bret Cahill wrote:
A study on intellectual property was published a couple years
ago.
You'll find similar results in other western countries.

The top 4 cities are in the 3 bluest of the blue states. No
need to
even mention names because everyone on the planet knows the 4
cities.


American arrogance at its finest - or worst. I'm a non-American,
fairly knowledgeable about the world outside my own country. I
could hazard a guess as to which 4 US cities you mean, but I sure
as hell don't _know_.

rest of drivel snipped

---
Don't take offense, that's just Bret Cahill; a patently offensive loon
who happens to live in the US and is despised here as well as, it seems,
everywhere he manages to send his shit.

JF

I think he's a lawyer, which would make him despised most everywhere.


Except for hell. They run the place.

---
So God finds out that this engineer got sent to Hell by mistake and
tells Satan to send him back.

Satan says: "Not a chance; I've got him down here working on the A/C."

"Send him back or I'll sue." replies God.

"Where you gonna find a lawyer?" retorts Satan...


I have a longer version of that joke somewhere, but that was what I
had in mind. :)


--
Greed is the root of all eBay.


Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:19 pm   



In sci.physics Bret Cahill <BretCahill_at_peoplepc.com> wrote:
Quote:
There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.

Monotony I expect.

An inventor needs some time without any distractions. 15 or so years
ago when foreign U.S. patent holders first started to number the
Americans a Japanese inventor explained that Americans rush around too
much.

Yeah sure, farmers have lots of free time...


--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

John Larkin
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:37 pm   



On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:11:48 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill_at_peoplepc.com> wrote:

Quote:
A study on intellectual property was published a couple years
ago.
You'll find similar results in other western countries.

The top 4 cities are in the 3 bluest of the blue states.  No
need to
even mention names because everyone on the planet knows the 4
cities.

American arrogance at its finest - or worst. I'm a non-American,
fairly knowledgeable about the world outside my own country. I
could hazard a guess as to which 4 US cities you mean, but I sure
as hell don't _know_.

NY, SF, LA, Boston.

I can't remember one of the cities, maybe Atlanta or Chicago.


Bret Cahill


I wonder what kind of IP is being generated by NY, SF, LA, and Boston.
Web apps maybe? Abstract art? Those places sure aren't doing serious
electronics, aviation, industrial, or even software design. Some
biotech, maybe.

I live in San Francisco, and I know that there's not much hard
technology development going on here. Lots of finance, lawyers,
"arts", web app developers, tourism, restaurants, wannabe novelists,
and homeless services. Not much that's real, very little that creates
useful IP.

That makes sense: lefties are almost always fuzzy thinkers, and real
businesses locate in friendlier climes.

John

John Larkin
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:46 pm   



On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:09:57 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless_at_electrooptical.net> wrote:

Quote:
On 2/7/2010 1:12 AM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2010-02-07, Bret Cahill<BretCahill_at_peoplepc.com> wrote:

There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.

Monotony I expect.




--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news_at_netfront.net ---

Nah, mostly poverty and isolation. You have to get the job done, or the
crops fail and you lose your farm. Puts a premium on being able to keep
things working and to improvise.

A recent issue of IEEE Spectrum had an article about the power plant
engineers in Gaza restarting their plant by collecting almost 200 car
batteries. Same deal, different situation.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Framing is very competitive; you live or die by crop yield. The few
farmers I've known were very intelligent and very versatile and did
pretty well. They would weld up a new tractor part in the morning and
expand their network of wireless soil moisture sensors in the
afternoon. One farmer I still know has a day job as a chemist for
Chevron, and is really, really rich. My first daddy-in-law was a Cajun
sugar cane farmer in Lousiana and left a tidy estate to my older
daughter, the only grandkid he really liked.

Most farmers are cool dudes.

John

John Larkin
Guest

Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:49 pm   



On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:04:15 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv_at_aol> wrote:

Quote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:26:55 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"
Jon_Slaughter_at_Hotmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:35:37 -0800 (PST), Marshall
marshall.spight_at_gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 6, 12:07 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:29:07 -0800 (PST), Marshall
marshall.spi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 6, 10:55 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Let's try this experiment: the urban engineers and scientists and
journalists and lawyers go on strike, and the rural farmers and
truck drivers and refinery operators and utility people go on
strike. See who surrenders first.
How about instead we quit all the partisan bickering, STFU and
GBTW.
Design any interesting electronics lately?
I'm all about the software. How about you?


Marshall
I'm an EE, and I mostly like to design electronics. But I spent a
bunch of last week working on the firmware of this:

http://www.highlandtechnology.com/DSS/T564DS.html

which uses an MC68332 programmed in assembly, just under 7000 lines of
code so far. I added the "frame looping" feature for a customer. That
allows them to load a list of delay/width settings that are loaded
into the gadget after every trigger, and loop N times through the
list. This should have been done in hardware, in the FPGA, but we did
a software implementation for now, and I'm grubbing around for every
microsecond in the ISR that reloads the hardware after each shot. It
runs in about 35 microseconds, not bad for three pages of code on an
ancient 20 MHz CPU.

I can design hardware forever, but I get depressed after about 2 weeks
of programming, for some reason.

What are you working on?

Aren't you a genius!! You seem to think that because you post some stupid
project on the net that it somehow makes you intelligent and that you'll
somehow get obama butt-buddy points(TM) for doing so?

Of course maybe you really are just interested in hearing what others have
done and want to share such things? If so ignore the first part.... If not,
then you might want to realize that there are millions of people out there
doing much more complicated electronics projects and not just for a
paycheck. You only look like someone trying to prove that they are
intelligent and doing a poor job of it.


What a weird person you are.

Yep. I don't think he read your specs.

/BAH

In an electronics discussion group, he objects to discussing
electronics.

John

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