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Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:59 pm
Hi all.
Can anyone give me a diagram or help on how to do this..
I've got 3 LEDs, and 3 Momentry Switches.
Id like to make it so that 1 LED is on at all times.
eg.
123 - ABC
Press 1 and A Lights, BC off.
Press 2 and B Lights, AC off.
Press 3 and C Lights, BC off.
And so on. Defalut would be 1-A when inital power up is done.
I could do this dead easily with small relays, but Im trying not to use
them. Idealy it would use Transistors or a small chip.
The source is +5V fed from a 7805
Im trying to get away from the old Clicking way of doing it. !!
Any help on this would be very welcome.
Here is what its for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1mNeno8XY
The 3 Large LEDs at the bottom center.
Regards
Wombat.
PeterD
Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:37 pm
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:59:13 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
<wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi all.
Can anyone give me a diagram or help on how to do this..
I've got 3 LEDs, and 3 Momentry Switches.
Id like to make it so that 1 LED is on at all times.
eg.
123 - ABC
Press 1 and A Lights, BC off.
Press 2 and B Lights, AC off.
Press 3 and C Lights, BC off.
And so on. Defalut would be 1-A when inital power up is done.
I could do this dead easily with small relays, but Im trying not to use
them. Idealy it would use Transistors or a small chip.
The source is +5V fed from a 7805
Im trying to get away from the old Clicking way of doing it. !!
Any help on this would be very welcome.
Here is what its for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1mNeno8XY
The 3 Large LEDs at the bottom center.
Regards
Wombat.
WEll, I don't see 3 large leds at teh bottom center, but...
Perhaps three flip-flops?
Doing it with one switch is really easy with a counter. (press and A
lights, press again, B lights, press again, C lights, and over again).
John Fields
Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:49 pm
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:59:13 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
<wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi all.
Can anyone give me a diagram or help on how to do this..
I've got 3 LEDs, and 3 Momentry Switches.
Id like to make it so that 1 LED is on at all times.
eg.
123 - ABC
Press 1 and A Lights, BC off.
Press 2 and B Lights, AC off.
Press 3 and C Lights, BC off.
---
Press 3 and C lights, AB off, don't you mean?
---
Quote:
And so on. Defalut would be 1-A when inital power up is done.
I could do this dead easily with small relays, but Im trying not to use
them. Idealy it would use Transistors or a small chip.
The source is +5V fed from a 7805
Im trying to get away from the old Clicking way of doing it. !!
Any help on this would be very welcome.
---
Schematic for you at:
news:cpqol2pr3beq657r88agpkq618biporh7f_at_4ax.com
--
JF
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Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:53 pm
"John Fields" <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:59:13 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Hi all.
Can anyone give me a diagram or help on how to do this..
I've got 3 LEDs, and 3 Momentry Switches.
Id like to make it so that 1 LED is on at all times.
eg.
123 - ABC
Press 1 and A Lights, BC off.
Press 2 and B Lights, AC off.
Press 3 and C Lights, BC off.
---
Press 3 and C lights, AB off, don't you mean?
---
And so on. Defalut would be 1-A when inital power up is done.
I could do this dead easily with small relays, but Im trying not to use
them. Idealy it would use Transistors or a small chip.
The source is +5V fed from a 7805
Im trying to get away from the old Clicking way of doing it. !!
Any help on this would be very welcome.
---
Schematic for you at:
news:cpqol2pr3beq657r88agpkq618biporh7f_at_4ax.com
--
JF
Just the Job dude.
Thanks.
I was Just looking at NOR, NAND type CMOS chips
http://www.doctronics.co.uk/4011.htm
Use full info.
Thanks again.
Regards
Wombat
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:56 pm
"PeterD" <peter2_at_hipson.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:59:13 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Hi all.
Can anyone give me a diagram or help on how to do this..
I've got 3 LEDs, and 3 Momentry Switches.
Id like to make it so that 1 LED is on at all times.
eg.
123 - ABC
Press 1 and A Lights, BC off.
Press 2 and B Lights, AC off.
Press 3 and C Lights, BC off.
And so on. Defalut would be 1-A when inital power up is done.
I could do this dead easily with small relays, but Im trying not to use
them. Idealy it would use Transistors or a small chip.
The source is +5V fed from a 7805
Im trying to get away from the old Clicking way of doing it. !!
Any help on this would be very welcome.
Here is what its for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1mNeno8XY
The 3 Large LEDs at the bottom center.
Regards
Wombat.
WEll, I don't see 3 large leds at teh bottom center, but...
Perhaps three flip-flops?
Doing it with one switch is really easy with a counter. (press and A
lights, press again, B lights, press again, C lights, and over again).
Ya just use a counter chip. 1 pulse moves on. Similar to the one Ive got for
the other 4 LEDs.
Though Ive got them in Latch Mode, so they stay lit. there is actual 8 LEDs.
4 are located on another remote board, fed from a 3rd plug in board.
Thanks
Regards
Wombat.
John Fields
Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:02 pm
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:37:39 -0500, PeterD <peter2_at_hipson.net>
wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:59:13 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Hi all.
Can anyone give me a diagram or help on how to do this..
I've got 3 LEDs, and 3 Momentry Switches.
Id like to make it so that 1 LED is on at all times.
eg.
123 - ABC
Press 1 and A Lights, BC off.
Press 2 and B Lights, AC off.
Press 3 and C Lights, BC off.
And so on. Defalut would be 1-A when inital power up is done.
I could do this dead easily with small relays, but Im trying not to use
them. Idealy it would use Transistors or a small chip.
The source is +5V fed from a 7805
Im trying to get away from the old Clicking way of doing it. !!
Any help on this would be very welcome.
Here is what its for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1mNeno8XY
The 3 Large LEDs at the bottom center.
Regards
Wombat.
WEll, I don't see 3 large leds at teh bottom center, but...
Perhaps three flip-flops?
Doing it with one switch is really easy with a counter. (press and A
lights, press again, B lights, press again, C lights, and over again).
---
Not only is that not what he asked for, it won't work properly since
the first time he pushes the switch "A" will light, then the second
time "B" will light, then the third time "A" and "B" will both be
lit, and the fourth time "C" will light. Pressing the switch again
will start the cycle anew.
--
JF
John Fields
Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:17 pm
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:53:58 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
<wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Quote:
---
You're welcome. :-)
Check rev A, I forgot the LED current limiting resistors on the
original.
--
JF
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Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:30 pm
"John Fields" <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:53:58 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Just the Job dude.
Thanks.
I was Just looking at NOR, NAND type CMOS chips
http://www.doctronics.co.uk/4011.htm
Use full info.
Thanks again.
---
You're welcome. :-)
Check rev A, I forgot the LED current limiting resistors on the
original.
--
JF
Thanks John.
Though Now you said that I can see where its at. Ive already done that side
of the design.
I was intending to run the LEDs via step down resistor and a Transistor.
Thats how the Voice box bit works, so I was just following on from that.
I understand why they are used.
Thanks again, will post a vid on YouTube once Ive finished the board.
Im also adding a DTMF Chip to the 8 LEDs to give of a small bleep as they
light.
Just wondering (as Ive not got a chip to play with) if the Tone is constent
from a 5089.?
Coz if it is Ill have to add a small cut off delay. Can't have the thing
bleeping for every. :-)
Thanks again.
Regards
Wombat.
Ps. you can see what its going in bellow.
--
Find more info at:
http://www.wombatppc.dsl.pipex.com/
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Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:21 pm
-----------
Quote:
Press 3 and C lights, AB off, don't you mean?
-----------
Yaa. :-)
I presume on the diagram that the chips are already supplied by +5V to both
pin14s and GND on Pins 7.
Also on the second 74HC02 does the UC2 UCD pins 10 13 need grounding via a
resistor?
As the outputs would be High until the button was pressed. Or can I just
leave them unconnected.?
Regards
Wombat.
"Wombat-Pipex-News" <wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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"John Fields" <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:59:13 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Hi all.
Can anyone give me a diagram or help on how to do this..
I've got 3 LEDs, and 3 Momentry Switches.
Id like to make it so that 1 LED is on at all times.
eg.
123 - ABC
Press 1 and A Lights, BC off.
Press 2 and B Lights, AC off.
Press 3 and C Lights, BC off.
---
Press 3 and C lights, AB off, don't you mean?
---
And so on. Defalut would be 1-A when inital power up is done.
I could do this dead easily with small relays, but Im trying not to use
them. Idealy it would use Transistors or a small chip.
The source is +5V fed from a 7805
Im trying to get away from the old Clicking way of doing it. !!
Any help on this would be very welcome.
---
Schematic for you at:
news:cpqol2pr3beq657r88agpkq618biporh7f_at_4ax.com
--
JF
Just the Job dude.
Thanks.
I was Just looking at NOR, NAND type CMOS chips
http://www.doctronics.co.uk/4011.htm
Use full info.
Thanks again.
Regards
Wombat
John Fields
Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:52 pm
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:21:40 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
<wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Quote:
-----------
Press 3 and C lights, AB off, don't you mean?
-----------
Yaa. :-)
I presume on the diagram that the chips are already supplied by +5V to both
pin14s and GND on Pins 7.
---
Yes.
---
Quote:
Also on the second 74HC02 does the UC2 UCD pins 10 13 need grounding via a
resistor?
---
No.
---
Quote:
As the outputs would be High until the button was pressed.
---
The outputs of U2C and U2D will _always_ be high, regardless of
whether S3 is made or not, since their inputs are wired to ground.
Notice that R5 is used to pull U2-5 down to 0V when S3 is open.
---
Quote:
Or can I just leave them unconnected.?
---
Yes. They're outputs, so there's nothing critical about them.
--
JF
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Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:54 pm
OK Thanks again John.
Im just doing the Trackwork now.
Ive ordered the chips and transistors, they should be here in a day or two.
Regards
Wombat.
"John Fields" <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:21:40 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
-----------
Press 3 and C lights, AB off, don't you mean?
-----------
Yaa. :-)
I presume on the diagram that the chips are already supplied by +5V to
both
pin14s and GND on Pins 7.
---
Yes.
---
Also on the second 74HC02 does the UC2 UCD pins 10 13 need grounding via a
resistor?
---
No.
---
As the outputs would be High until the button was pressed.
---
The outputs of U2C and U2D will _always_ be high, regardless of
whether S3 is made or not, since their inputs are wired to ground.
Notice that R5 is used to pull U2-5 down to 0V when S3 is open.
---
Or can I just leave them unconnected.?
---
Yes. They're outputs, so there's nothing critical about them.
--
JF
John Fields
Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:12 pm
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:30:40 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
<wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Quote:
Thanks John.
Though Now you said that I can see where its at. Ive already done that side
of the design.
I was intending to run the LEDs via step down resistor and a Transistor.
Thats how the Voice box bit works, so I was just following on from that.
I understand why they are used.
Thanks again, will post a vid on YouTube once Ive finished the board.
Im also adding a DTMF Chip to the 8 LEDs to give of a small bleep as they
light.
Just wondering (as Ive not got a chip to play with) if the Tone is constent
from a 5089.?
---
Yes. as long as TONE ENABLE is high and you've got valid row and
column inputs to the chip, you'll get a tone out. But why are you
planning on using a 5089 when you could easily make a gated
oscillator from the leftover NORs in my circuit?
---
Quote:
Coz if it is Ill have to add a small cut off delay. Can't have the thing
bleeping for every.
---
OK
--
JF
Wombat-Pipex-News
Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:20 pm
Dude its complicated enough !!
The 5089 looks simple from this diagram i have.
Im a hobby ist !!
:-)
"John Fields" <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:30:40 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Thanks John.
Though Now you said that I can see where its at. Ive already done that
side
of the design.
I was intending to run the LEDs via step down resistor and a Transistor.
Thats how the Voice box bit works, so I was just following on from that.
I understand why they are used.
Thanks again, will post a vid on YouTube once Ive finished the board.
Im also adding a DTMF Chip to the 8 LEDs to give of a small bleep as they
light.
Just wondering (as Ive not got a chip to play with) if the Tone is
constent
from a 5089.?
---
Yes. as long as TONE ENABLE is high and you've got valid row and
column inputs to the chip, you'll get a tone out. But why are you
planning on using a 5089 when you could easily make a gated
oscillator from the leftover NORs in my circuit?
---
Coz if it is Ill have to add a small cut off delay. Can't have the thing
bleeping for every. :-)
---
OK
--
JF
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Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:21 pm
Though Now you said it can be done Im gonna have to look into that. :-)
"Wombat-Pipex-News" <wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Dude its complicated enough !!
The 5089 looks simple from this diagram i have.
Im a hobby ist !!
:-)
"John Fields" <jfields_at_austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:30:40 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Thanks John.
Though Now you said that I can see where its at. Ive already done that
side
of the design.
I was intending to run the LEDs via step down resistor and a Transistor.
Thats how the Voice box bit works, so I was just following on from that.
I understand why they are used.
Thanks again, will post a vid on YouTube once Ive finished the board.
Im also adding a DTMF Chip to the 8 LEDs to give of a small bleep as they
light.
Just wondering (as Ive not got a chip to play with) if the Tone is
constent
from a 5089.?
---
Yes. as long as TONE ENABLE is high and you've got valid row and
column inputs to the chip, you'll get a tone out. But why are you
planning on using a 5089 when you could easily make a gated
oscillator from the leftover NORs in my circuit?
---
Coz if it is Ill have to add a small cut off delay. Can't have the thing
bleeping for every. :-)
---
OK
--
JF
John Fields
Guest
Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:17 pm
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:20:18 -0500, "Wombat-Pipex-News"
<wombatppc_at_nospam_at_dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Quote:
Dude its complicated enough !!
The 5089 looks simple from this diagram i have.
Im a hobby ist !!
---
I figured you were, but no problem. Here's the simple gated
oscillator: (view in Courier)
+--------[0.1µF]----+
| |
+--[1K8]-+ |
| | |
+--A | |
| NOR Y--+--A |
______ +--B NOR Y----+---->3kHz OUT
ENABLE>--------------B
"A" and "B" are the inputs of the two NORs, the "Y"s are their
outputs, and to make it run you pull the ENABLE input low for as
long as you want the thing to oscillate.
--
JF
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